Farming Forum UK

A forum for farmers and country-folk worldwide.
It is currently Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:56 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:05 pm
Posts: 11050
Location: The Zone
We don't have a big enough impact gun for loosening and tightening tractor wheel nuts so do it manually. I have a 3/4 inch drive T-bar in a piece of pipe for extra leverage, but I've spied this http://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/4507 for 200 notes. I've emailed them and said that it may get some hard work and sales blokey emailed back and said he thought it would probably do what I wanted.

Thing is this https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-pro201-ratchet/ looks zackly the same for 80 notes. I had a look at the Clarke one on Sunday and it looks ok. They sell Laser spanners and the jumbo set which I have my eye on are the exact same ones as Draper, so I'm wondering if the Clarke and Laser ratchet are the same.

What say the panel?

_________________
keep honking, I'm reloading


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:05 am
Posts: 11902
Location: On the beach!
Mrs R works in the tool trade. So I've learnt a bit from what she has told me. They are highly likely to be straight out of the same factory. Just badged different. Or even re-badged after arriving in the UK.
Sometimes the badge is the most expensive part of any tools you might be buying. Got any Snap-On? :wink:

_________________
Fasten your seatbelts. We're off.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:18 am
Posts: 8446
Location: Schizophrenia-Just this side of the border
Raggy wrote:
Mrs R works in the tool trade. So I've learnt a bit from what she has told me. They are highly likely to be straight out of the same factory. Just badged different. Or even re-badged after arriving in the UK.
Sometimes the badge is the most expensive part of any tools you might be buying. Got any Snap-On? :wink:



In the case of Snapon, one of the main plants is a few miles from here, several folks work there. Their core business of hand tools, sockets, ratchets, wrenches and boxes are as good as they get. Everyone expects a company to provide a full line so that is were some of the over priced stuff comes in.

From stories I have heard from workers, the plant spares nothing in making sure their bread and butter tools are right.

_________________
Measure twice, cut once, curse, repeat.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:13 pm
Posts: 4453
Location: Norfolk
McFarmer wrote:
Raggy wrote:
Mrs R works in the tool trade. So I've learnt a bit from what she has told me. They are highly likely to be straight out of the same factory. Just badged different. Or even re-badged after arriving in the UK.
Sometimes the badge is the most expensive part of any tools you might be buying. Got any Snap-On? :wink:



In the case of Snapon, one of the main plants is a few miles from here, several folks work there. Their core business of hand tools, sockets, ratchets, wrenches and boxes are as good as they get. Everyone expects a company to provide a full line so that is were some of the over priced stuff comes in.

From stories I have heard from workers, the plant spares nothing in making sure their bread and butter tools are right.

Fair enough, but Pret wants to tighten his nuts not make a picnic. :roll:

_________________
Here we go again, hold tight.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:36 pm
Posts: 7239
Location: Megawatt valley
I don't think you would go far wrong with the 80 quid one Pret.

_________________
Taxi Willy,he's a hero...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 09, 2009 11:59 pm
Posts: 2131
Location: Workshop- where else?
You'd be far better off with one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bergen-TORQUE-MULTIPLIER-WHEEL-NUT-WRENCH-1-DRIVE-for-Tractor-JCB-Truck-A6901/141212583465?_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D35223596acd84ca8af1e763ad77b28d5%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D371724993806

Bergen is a reasonable quality brand but still low cost. It will be a lot more refined than scaffold tubes and brute strength plus it usually gets tighter than you can manage with bendy bars and tubes. One above is 1" drive- get a reducer to 3/4" and you can still use what sockets you already have.

_________________
Best thing about Facebook is the logout button...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:00 pm
Posts: 1385
The chap I didn't weld the shed together for has the exact same ratchet as the 80 quid one, didn't pay 80 quid for it tho. Bought it from some gezzer that periodically turns up in an estate car for 35 quid !, we've used it a lot and it does take some hammer !.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:05 pm
Posts: 11050
Location: The Zone
footsfitter wrote:
You'd be far better off with one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bergen-TORQUE-MULTIPLIER-WHEEL-NUT-WRENCH-1-DRIVE-for-Tractor-JCB-Truck-A6901/141212583465?_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D35223596acd84ca8af1e763ad77b28d5%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D371724993806

Bergen is a reasonable quality brand but still low cost. It will be a lot more refined than scaffold tubes and brute strength plus it usually gets tighter than you can manage with bendy bars and tubes. One above is 1" drive- get a reducer to 3/4" and you can still use what sockets you already have.


The main issue is that the wheels on the sprayer tractor are wide and I'm going to need to purchase a 16 inch extension to go on the socket, how will that like being on such a long extension?

_________________
keep honking, I'm reloading


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 09, 2009 11:59 pm
Posts: 2131
Location: Workshop- where else?
The Pretender wrote:
footsfitter wrote:
You'd be far better off with one of these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bergen-TORQUE-MULTIPLIER-WHEEL-NUT-WRENCH-1-DRIVE-for-Tractor-JCB-Truck-A6901/141212583465?_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D35223596acd84ca8af1e763ad77b28d5%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D371724993806

Bergen is a reasonable quality brand but still low cost. It will be a lot more refined than scaffold tubes and brute strength plus it usually gets tighter than you can manage with bendy bars and tubes. One above is 1" drive- get a reducer to 3/4" and you can still use what sockets you already have.


The main issue is that the wheels on the sprayer tractor are wide and I'm going to need to purchase a 16 inch extension to go on the socket, how will that like being on such a long extension?


Can you get that multiplier on a wheel nut without any extension? If you can that is the best way to do it and then have the extension on the multipliers drive head- less springy torquing extensions that way and plus if the multipliers stop leg will jam up against the hub or other nut etc it will be much better holding it stationary.

Our TM is a norbar type which had the handle welded in place after someone misused the removable top legs that type can use so now you can't get it in anywhere unless there is room for the 12" handle! Still works ok but with extensions on the output end of the TM it don't half wind them up - not unusual in that scenario to wind the input around a couple of turns just to get the "slack" taken up before it starts to try loosening- then you have to watch it doesn't unwind like hell! Hence best direct on the socket if possible. Our norbar TM has a 1" to 1" drive bar that also acts as a safety shear- get carried away and it will twist it off like a carrot (can also get a 1" to 3/4" drivebar/reducer but they shear off a lot easier to be any use) Ours puts out 5 times the torque you put in so a 3ft scaffold tube = a 15ft one if you were on the nut direct but the smoothness of the TM's torque makes stuff seem to go tighter than bouncing up and down on a scaffold tube.

BTW, look out for alloy scaffold tubes, not often about but they are much more user friendly than steel ones.

_________________
Best thing about Facebook is the logout button...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 1:50 pm
Posts: 2690
Location: St Davids
Stop ffuking about and just get a gretol windy gun, job sorted. 8)

_________________
Just a Pembrokeshire twat.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:21 pm
Posts: 24451
Draper Pro, Halfords Pro and Clarke Pro are all the same tools with a different branding.
Lifetime guarantee etc and I've not had one break.

_________________
Lovely, lovely, lovely....hahahahaha


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:44 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:05 pm
Posts: 11050
Location: The Zone
Used my new Clarke ratchet this morning loosening to sprayer wheel nuts and it works a treat 8)

_________________
keep honking, I'm reloading


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic 
 [ 12 posts ] 
Post new topic 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group Color scheme by ColorizeIt!