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 Post subject: Fallow options?
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:22 pm 
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Not technically 'arable', but ...

Got 15 acre field, 10 miles from home & luckily, with this new BPS thing it'll be handy to put it down to 'fallow' ... permanently!

What I'd like to ask the panel is, what should we 'do with it'?
What can we plant that'll 'look after itself' with minimal/no management?

At the moment it's just stubble & weeds, but in its current state it'll need topping/round-up'ing off sometime ...


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:28 pm 
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Grass.
Rent it out for grazing.

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Walnuts and oaks ?

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:33 pm 
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Grass.
Rent it out for grazing.


Fencing isn't good & you can't graze 'fallow' land, which we need for our BPS EFA.


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Walnuts and oaks ?

Trees are no-good for fallow.
Also, we hope to get this field away for planning ... sooner or later! :?


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 7:37 am 
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Ah, under the old system you could graze an amount of fallow land for a certain number of days.
A chap near Flixton used to get it eaten down by some native breed cattle so all that was left was the Shyte. Before that it was all in set-aside and he used to top it.
If you can't do anything with it under this new scheme then just leave it.
The worse it looks the more chance you'll have for planning.

*I've just re-read your original post and you mention it's stubble* :?
Do you have absolutely no window to do anything under the new rules ?

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:43 am 
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The Squire wrote:
Not technically 'arable', but ...

Got 15 acre field, 10 miles from home & luckily, with this new BPS thing it'll be handy to put it down to 'fallow' ... permanently!

What I'd like to ask the panel is, what should we 'do with it'?
What can we plant that'll 'look after itself' with minimal/no management?

At the moment it's just stubble & weeds, but in its current state it'll need topping/round-up'ing off sometime ...


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I would make one trip per year to top it. Job done.

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Coltheox wrote:
The Squire wrote:
Not technically 'arable', but ...

Got 15 acre field, 10 miles from home & luckily, with this new BPS thing it'll be handy to put it down to 'fallow' ... permanently!

What I'd like to ask the panel is, what should we 'do with it'?
What can we plant that'll 'look after itself' with minimal/no management?

At the moment it's just stubble & weeds, but in its current state it'll need topping/round-up'ing off sometime ...


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I would make one trip per year to top it. Job done.

It seems it's either do that, or sow it with some kind of "wild bird seed mix, pollen & nectar source"
"These must be an unharvestable mix of at least 2 crops that support wildlife and pollinators"

Never had anything to do with 'that' kind of stuff!
Can you just sow it & forget it?


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The Squire wrote:
It seems it's either do that, or sow it with some kind of "wild bird seed mix, pollen & nectar source"
"These must be an unharvestable mix of at least 2 crops that support wildlife and pollinators"

Never had anything to do with 'that' kind of stuff!
Can you just sow it & forget it?


We have a field that is fallow and it's just volunteers and a few weeds. Some of the weeds are blackgrass, so we're allowed to spray it with roundup.

We also have some nectar strips and the odd corner here and there that have been sown with the wild bird, pollen and nectar scoure mix and when they get established and if they can out compete the weeds they look really good and are a buzzing hive of activity, but they can get over come with thistles, but insects like those too. The rules seem to change a lot, usually just after I think I know what they are, but we do top ours now and again.

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JM wrote:
Do whatever is cheapest without letting it become a jungle.

When would be best time of year to give it a single 'topping'?
Sept/Oct?

Lord Muck wrote:
If you can't do anything with it under this new scheme then just leave it.
The worse it looks the more chance you'll have for planning.

*I've just re-read your original post and you mention it's stubble* :?
Do you have absolutely no window to do anything under the new rules ?

Guessing if we make it look too 'pretty' it'll only be used against us!

A friend of the family had the field for years, on a verbal agreement but our accountant insisted the agreement ended, or was made 'legal', if there potentially was 'planning' in the future. The need for EFA swayed the decision.
There was wheat stubble left from the previous year & it was amazing the number of pheasants, etc grazing there earlier this year. 8)


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Sow with a wild bird/insect mix and top in the spring. Easy to care for, looks nice and supports wildlife.

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There are a variety of mixes, specific in some cases to what you wish to encourage.
Chap I know did a mix for bees and it was amazing. Crop was full of them which can only be a good thing.
If it's 'spare' ground and you can do some good with a wildseed mix, go for it.

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Lord Muck wrote:
There are a variety of mixes, specific in some cases to what you wish to encourage.
Chap I know did a mix for bees and it was amazing. Crop was full of them which can only be a good thing.
If it's 'spare' ground and you can do some good with a wildseed mix, go for it.



Or turn it into a caravan site................................. :roll:

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Coltheox wrote:
Lord Muck wrote:
There are a variety of mixes, specific in some cases to what you wish to encourage.
Chap I know did a mix for bees and it was amazing. Crop was full of them which can only be a good thing.
If it's 'spare' ground and you can do some good with a wildseed mix, go for it.



Or turn it into a caravan site................................. :roll:

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The Squire wrote:
Coltheox wrote:
Lord Muck wrote:
There are a variety of mixes, specific in some cases to what you wish to encourage.
Chap I know did a mix for bees and it was amazing. Crop was full of them which can only be a good thing.
If it's 'spare' ground and you can do some good with a wildseed mix, go for it.



Or turn it into a caravan site................................. :roll:

Squatters rights?


Only if it's time for a package to Nottingham. :?

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