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 Post subject: Re: Black grass
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:42 pm 
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Hypothetically ( for now at least), if a manufacturer came up with the spray that tackled Blackgrass 100%, then what would we be willing to pay?
Obviously the chemical company would make tens or even hundreds of millions to repay some of the massive investment they would have spent. But would we pay £50/ac? £100ac? More?

£100 an acre but, farmers would cut the rates and after a few years resistance would appear and we're back to square 1.

A full program costs £100-150 /ha, I would suggest that with farmers willing to Ffuk themselves over Nqit is right someone would see half rate works and after three years it would be back to square one.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:10 pm 
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Raggy wrote:
Hypothetically ( for now at least), if a manufacturer came up with the spray that tackled Blackgrass 100%, then what would we be willing to pay?
Obviously the chemical company would make tens or even hundreds of millions to repay some of the massive investment they would have spent. But would we pay £50/ac? £100ac? More?

£100 an acre but, farmers would cut the rates and after a few years resistance would appear and we're back to square 1.

A full program costs £100-150 /ha, I would suggest that with farmers willing to Ffuk themselves over Nqit is right someone would see half rate works and after three years it would be back to square one.

Mixed farming with cover crops for grazing. It's the way forward!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:33 pm 
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NQIT wrote:
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NQIT wrote:
Raggy wrote:
Hypothetically ( for now at least), if a manufacturer came up with the spray that tackled Blackgrass 100%, then what would we be willing to pay?
Obviously the chemical company would make tens or even hundreds of millions to repay some of the massive investment they would have spent. But would we pay £50/ac? £100ac? More?

£100 an acre but, farmers would cut the rates and after a few years resistance would appear and we're back to square 1.

A full program costs £100-150 /ha, I would suggest that with farmers willing to Ffuk themselves over Nqit is right someone would see half rate works and after three years it would be back to square one.

Mixed farming with cover crops for grazing. It's the way forward!


It is.... the one thing blackgrass cant stand is being grazed. Its an annual weed, if it doesnt seed then you dont get any new blackgrass weeds the next year aside from seeds already in the ground.

Put any terrible fields down to a 3 year lay and stick some stock on it, clean the field right up.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:09 am 
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NQIT wrote:
Tel wrote:
NQIT wrote:
Raggy wrote:
Hypothetically ( for now at least), if a manufacturer came up with the spray that tackled Blackgrass 100%, then what would we be willing to pay?
Obviously the chemical company would make tens or even hundreds of millions to repay some of the massive investment they would have spent. But would we pay £50/ac? £100ac? More?

£100 an acre but, farmers would cut the rates and after a few years resistance would appear and we're back to square 1.

A full program costs £100-150 /ha, I would suggest that with farmers willing to Ffuk themselves over Nqit is right someone would see half rate works and after three years it would be back to square one.

Mixed farming with cover crops for grazing. It's the way forward!

AD plant with 3-5 year grass ley and maize and rye will do the job, mixed farming with a concrete cow.
I have not heard about how many years grace people are getting after a grass ley before they Ffuk it up again, depends on the farmer I imagine


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:32 pm 
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We have almost as much trouble with rye grass here.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:22 pm 
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The Pretender wrote:
We have almost as much trouble with rye grass here.

The key with all the grasses is don't let them seed, take several cuts a year like it was being grazed but without having to get up 365 days a year


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:18 pm 
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Tel wrote:
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We have almost as much trouble with rye grass here.

The key with all the grasses is don't let them seed, take several cuts a year like it was being grazed but without having to get up 365 days a year


when are the seeds viable?

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The Pretender wrote:
Tel wrote:
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We have almost as much trouble with rye grass here.

The key with all the grasses is don't let them seed, take several cuts a year like it was being grazed but without having to get up 365 days a year


when are the seeds viable?

Considered opinion is that viable seeds can be found very soon after if not at flowering.


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The Pretender wrote:
We have almost as much trouble with rye grass here.



Haylage the headlands?


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Not sure, has it made its way north of the wash?

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Not sure, has it made its way north of the wash?


Yes.

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Not sure, has it made its way north of the wash?


Yes.


How far north?

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dust n diesel wrote:
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Not sure, has it made its way north of the wash?


Yes.


How far north?


Dunno, plenty in Lincolncestershire.

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Not sure, has it made its way north of the wash?


Yes.


How far north?


Dunno, plenty in Lincolncestershire.


Time for some plarn.

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